Norse Gods and Goddesses and the Asatru

lokavinr:

paganconnection:

Who are the Norse Gods and Goddesses and Who worships them?

Asatru is the modern re-birth of the old Norse beliefs. The Old Norse culture is the ancestors of the Norwegians, Danes, Swedes, the Icelanders, and probably a few other peoples in that general area. They follow the Norse Pantheon, See…

All right. We need to talk about this list.

The word “Norse” means exactly what it sounds like…Nordic. When people use the term “Norse Gods” or “Ásatrú” (a word derived from Icelandic), they are generally referring to the deities discussed in Eddic and skaldic poetry, Snorra Edda, the Icelandic or Norwegian sagas, or those attested in place names and/or identified in archeological sites in Iceland, Norway, the Faroe Islands, Sweden, Denmark, and parts on the UK heavily influenced by Norse settlers in the Middle Ages.

Looking at this list as a practitioner of Norse Heathenry/Ásatrú I am only familiar with about two thirds of the names you have included, and only worship about half of them. The deities you included that actually belong on a list of Norse Gods are:

  • Óðinn
  • Frigg
  • [The Æsir]
  • [The Vanir]
  • Buri
  • Forseti
  • Freyja
  • Gefjun
  • Hel
  • Iðunn
  • Njörðr
  • Norns
  • Ríg (Heimdallr)
  • Skaði
  • Þórr
  • Týr
  • Víðarr
  • [Valkyries…though I’ve never seen anyone worshiping them]

Moreover, you’ve left out quite a few, including:

  • Loki
  • Sif
  • Sigyn
  • Ullr
  • Freyr (How did you miss him?!)
  • Bragi
  • Sunna
  • Máni
  • Baldr
  • Váli
  • Magni and Móði
  • Ect…

Now the degree to which some of these beings (on both lists) were worshiped is a matter often debated, but at the very least you missed the well-attested and widely worshiped Gods Freyr and Ullr who are very much “Norse Gods.”

In their place, you filled in many Gods who do not belong here, erasing Slavic cultural identity and shepherding several region-specific groups of Deities under the label of “Norse.” You may have been going for “heathen” rather than “Norse” as your label, but even still, the identity of Slavic and Finnish branches as “heathen” is likewise contested. 

In general, “heathen” is applied to the religions of people in the “Germanic” language tree (Goths, Saxons, Frisians, Norsemen, and occasionally some of the earlier tribes attested by Tacitus). Each of these groups has its own religion, with some similarities but many more deities and practices unique to that area. For example:

Suebian (ca. 100 CE):

  • Nerthus
  • Cisa (?)

Frisian/Saxon (ca. 300 CE?):

  • Nehalennia

Hessian (ca. 800 CE):

  • Donar

Saxon/Franconian (ca. 800 CE):

  • Uuôtan/Uuodan
  • Phol
  • Donar
  • Frîja/Friia
  • Balder
  • Uolla
  • Sinthgunt
  • Zîu

(Anglo) Saxon (ca. 700-800 CE):

  • Wôden
  • Eorðe
  • Frige
  • Hretha
  • Eostre
  • Seaxnēat
  • Þunor
  • Tîw

There are also a few deities people have attempted to reconstruct based on more modern folklore, though there is a danger in doing this and assuming this reflects an earlier tradition:

  • Holda (Continental Germanic)
  • Perchta (Alpine)

In any case, the bottom line here is that these deities cannot all be labeled as “Norse,” and certainly cannot be lumped into one single religious tradition. They are region and time period specific, and, while there may be some crossover (Uuôtan/Wôden/Óðinn), each location had their own way of describing and honoring these deities and must be viewed as their own distinct religious tradition.

Furthermore, Finnish and Slavic deities are even more distinct from the “Norse” heathen group, and should not be lumped together. For one thing, the Finnish religion (through their possible connection with the Sami and other indigenous people of Scandinavia) probably predates the arrival of the Nordic people. There is evidence suggesting that some religious/magical practices (such as seiðr) and possibly certain “Norse” deities were appropriated early on by Norse settlers, but in any case that makes it even more disrespectful to erase Finnish religion by calling it Norse.

Similarly, the Baltic and Slavic regions were raided and settled by Norsemen, but we do not know for certain what elements of their religion predate these invasions and which were borrowed from the Norse. Mythologists have noted similarities in the stories from these religions, but we have no way of knowing who had them first, when they were borrowed, and, because Slavic mythology was largely recorded by outsiders, how often Slavic deities were conflated with Norse ones by outsiders who traveled there.

It is better to be safe and stick with the Gods actually recorded in Norse sources when talking about “Norse Heathenry” or the modern revival of these practices in Ásatrú or Forn Sed. To lump together all “Germanic” deities under the label of “Germanic” is to erase region-specific practices and beliefs and to collapse over a thousand years of history into one box. Furthermore, to call Slavic and Finnish Gods Norse is to completely ignore those cultures and traditions, and to assert the supremacy of a religion that, particularly in the case of the Finns, is newer in the region than those indigenous beliefs.

Norse Gods and Goddesses and the Asatru

magicianmew:

katiecrenshaw:

grandparomeaskblog:

asexualmew:

marauders4evr:

Friendly reminder that Vincent van Gogh willingly checked himself into an asylum so that he could get better, resulting in him creating some of the most iconic paintings of his entire career, done in the asylum, when he was being treated 24/7, because he finally didn’t have to struggle with his demons and could instead focus on his muse, WHICH WERE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS!

Remember this little insignificant painting?

How about this one?

Check this one out:

All of these and more were painted in the asylum when he was receiving treatment for his mental illnesses and I know I just said that but I said it again and I’m saying it a third time until you dramatic abled assholes understand!

VINCENT VAN GOGH

– KNEW THAT HE WAS MENTALLY ILL

– WANTED TO CHANGE THAT

– WENT TO AN ASYLUM

– GOT THE HELP HE NEEDED

– PAINTED SOME ICONIC MASTERPIECES AS A RESULT!

SO DON’T YOU DARE COME OUT HERE WITH THIS, “I WISH I WAS DEPRESSED SO I COULD BE AS CREATIVE AS VAN GOGH” BULLSHIT BECAUSE EVEN HE KNEW THAT HIS DEMONS WERE HARMING HIS WORK, AND MORE IMPORTANTLY, HIS HEALTH, AND HE DID EVERYTHING WITHIN HIS POWER TO FIGHT THEM EVERY SINGLE DAY OF HIS LIFE, UNTIL THEY ENDED UP WINNING! 

This is also incredibly important for any creative persons dealing with mental illness, and their parents.

Receiving mental help improves your craft, not hurt it. Before getting put on medication for the first time to treat my mental illnesses, my mom expressed to me how she’s worried about my getting treatment because of my art. Regardless, your mental health should be more important anyway, but, honestly, it’s a lot harder to produce good art when you struggle getting out of bed, let alone creating masterpieces. When you’re in more health, improving your craft comes much easier!

Personally I think the most beautifull painting of him was this one:

He made it when he heard about the birth of his nephew who was named after him. Still in the asylum but really happy for his brother!

“How glad I was when the news came… I should have greatly preferred
him to call the boy after Father, of whom I have been thinking so much
these days, instead of after me; but seeing it has now been done, I
started right away to make a picture for him, to hang in their bedroom,
big branches of white almond blossom against a blue sky.”

Oh I have sucb rants about how “good” art comes while suffering.

No.

look at me.

The idea of the “suffering artist” comes from bunch of alcholic, drug abusing, womanizers trying to justify their bad life choices as some sort of artistic angst.

IT IS 100% BULLSHIT

Take your meds, get your therapy, be happy, and live life

The art will be there.

Kill the myth that artists must suffer.